The charcoal canister

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The charcoal canister

Post by Newcastle knight » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:30 pm

Hi all,

Im just wondering if anyone here has removed theirs and what the car is like ? the problem ive got is, ive never had one on my car, and the metal pipe that goes from the tank to it in the engine bay has been capped off. This has never been a problem until last year when i started smelling petrol. After a root around i found it was the filler neck on the petrol tank that was leaking.

So before fixing that everytime i took the petrol cap off i got no hiss, no pressure in the system. After i fixed it i get a huge whoooosh when removing the cap now, too much pressure ?

Im wondering if i need to get a vapour canister and try putting it all back together to keep the pressure down a bit, OR !.....replace my non vented petrol cap for a vented one and hope that does the same sort of thing ?

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Post by bhm1712 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:21 pm

the hiss will be vacuum not pressure i would have thought. as the petrol is sucked out by the pump, the non vented cap creates a vacuum which is only release when you undo the cap. This happens on both my daily drives so i wouldnt think its an issue.
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Post by SUPERCHARGEDGTA » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:18 pm

we took Davids one out years ago to make room for a cold air intake
ran and has run fine ever since :thumb:

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Post by Newcastle knight » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:42 pm

hmmm, im just worried theres too much pressure in the system though. John did you cap the end of the pipe off too ? and does Davids let out a huge whoosh when he undoes the cap at the petrol station ?

I will have to check if its vacuum or pressure releasing Ian as i never thought of it that way, it just sounds like its letting a load of air out. I think im getting consious of it now ive got the new engine in and it wont be long before im ready to fire it up

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Post by SUPERCHARGEDGTA » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:11 am

didn't cap them, just left them connected to the top valve (this unclips from the canister

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Re: The charcoal canister

Post by Newcastle knight » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:29 pm

ah right, i havnt got any of the assembly, i literally have a metal pipe that just stops near the steering linkage and thats it, the whole lot had been removed

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Re: The charcoal canister

Post by thirdgen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:11 pm

i removed all mine on red just blocked up the vacuum lines was fine smelt less than it did before

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Post by SUPERCHARGEDGTA » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:59 pm

as paul said, as long as the vac. pipe from the engine is blocked it will run fine

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Re: The charcoal canister

Post by Newcastle knight » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:28 pm

Just just leave it the way it is then, sounds good enough to me, i just hope this increase in vacuum / pressure noise when undoing the petrol cap is normal then

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Post by thirdgen » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:47 pm

they all do that a bit mine did never let me down so was all good :thumb:

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Re: The charcoal canister

Post by Newcastle knight » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:45 pm

All reassuring comments then !

Maybe im just not used to the big whooosh noise as it had obviously been leaking for ages, it used to let off a hiss when taking the cap off then it eventually stopped, no doubt as the crack in the filler neck got worse, so the car has probably never had a totally pressurised fuel system in the 10 years ive had it !

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